Anyone here separating H from O ?

[adm]

Seems like the technology of electrolysis is all around us and has been for a long time.   I knew the technology had been around for nearly a hundred years but had not realized that it was in use in so many different ways.

[hg2]

  Actually it's been around since the development of the DC battery,if you've ever charged up a battery with the caps off,the bubbles you see coming up are in fact hydroxy gas.

[adm]

That I didn't know, I guess I figured it was probably a sulfuric acid gas.  Actually I don't think I've ever thought about it before.

[hg2]

  Roy I found that out almost 40 years ago when a neighbor kid(he wasn't the brightest knife in the drawer) struck a match to a battery that his father was charging on high with the caps off,it blew the top off the battery and nearly blinded the kid.It didn't dawn on me until last year when I started experimenting with HHO  that the gas the battery was expelling was in fact hydroxy(I'm sure it was mixed with other deadly gases).

  Of course this would never work for us because of the corrosive nature of sulfuric acid,that would be harmful to us and our motors.

[adm]

I've heard of batteries blowing up and usually its from over charging.  I guess while charging like crazy the gases form and maybe a little spark and there she blows!

I had one blow probably 30 years ago on a car I was driving.  It was so loud it sounded like a bomb going off and you couldn't tell from which direction it came from.   I don't remember why but something happened to make me stop and open up the hood and my battery was in pieces all over the engine compartment!

[Gary]

  As an update, 340ml/min. H2 into a V-8 will not do anything. If I can get time, I'll be doubling the amount and trying that.
Using 3 parallell cells, it took about 20 amps to produce that much. Next cell will be a 4N2 with a new type of filter membrane.

[Fatman 1]

I been playing with making H and O and not had much luck. The plans I have used didn't do as was told :-(  like most things. Would like to hear more from people who has worked on it.

[Dave Nowlin]

I'm a little confused about this.  When people produce HHO they try and fool the oxygen sensors.  When you burn pure hydrogen where does the exra oxygen needed for combustion come from?  The computer and sensors on the vehicle aren't calibrated for it.  With HHO you add extra fuel and the oxygen needed to combust it.

Dave Nowlin

[hg2]

 
  Dave,  The small amount of h2 used isn't detected by the vehicles sensors and being a small amount there's plenty of O2 in the air drawn by the intake for combustion.Most the the gasoline we use believe or not goes right out the tailpipe never being burnt(hydrocarbons and emissions) and the h2 helps burn this residual gasoline more efficiently before it leaves the combustion chamber,the same as hydroxy gas does to aid in better mileage gains.But with hydroxy the additional O2 IS detected by the vehicles O2sensors thus telling the ECM the motor has too much O2 which the result is the ECM increasing the fuel flow to the motor.This is reason for installing EFIES on the O2 sensors to counter this increased fuel flow thus allowing for better mileage gains.

  Fatman 1,  The fuel saver forum has a sub-forum created by the moderators just for the people experimenting with H2 only systems and generator construction if you want to learn more about it.Here's the link and you might consider joining they're a pretty good bunch over there.

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